Help talk:Greek text
(Moved from Main_Page --JustinEiler 12:35, 4 Sep 2005 (CDT))
Okay, I give up. How do you get proper Greek fonts to work here?
Joseph
- Hi, Joe.
- The big problem with Greek (or any non-Roman) letters is that it actually depends on the browser, not the server software. The best way is probably to use Unicode for your Greek letters.
- Try this link ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language#The_Lord.27s_Prayer_in_Greek_.28Matt._6:9-13.29 Lord's Prayer in Greek), and tell me if you see the letters in Greek, or if they come up as question marks.
(Note: Once we get this problem resolved, I'll move it to the "Help" area, as this is likely to be a recurring question.)
--JustinEiler 09:37, 2 Sep 2005 (CDT)
Hi Justin. Here's what I get:
"The Lord's Prayer in Greek (Matt. 6:9-13) ????? ???? ? ?? ???? ???????? ????????? ?? ????? ???·
?????? ? ???????? ???· ???????? ?? ?????? ???, ?? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ???·
??? ????? ???? ??? ????????? ??? ???? ???????·
??? ???? ???? ?? ????????? ????, ?? ??? ????? ??????? ???? ?????????? ????·
??? ?? ?????????? ???? ??? ?????????, ???? ????? ???? ??? ??? ???????.
??? ??? ????? ? ???????? ??? ? ??????? ??? ? ???? ??? ???? ??????·
????."
Close. I assume the letters that are not recognized come out as the squares, "?". If it is a Browser issue do you know exactly how to fix it? I tell you the truth, I haven't made any attempt to look at my Browser setting but as you said, others will have the same problem.
Joseph
- Well, that's the problem: my browser's set correctly, so even in your pasted copy I see the text without boxes.
- But yes, it's probably a settings issue on your end. A couple of questions:
- What browser software are you using?
- What operating system are you using? Some operating systems can properly handle Unicode, some can't, but the worst offenders are Windows 95 and Windows 98.
- With that information, we should (hopefully) get you set up quickly--unless you're using one of the operating systems that can't use Unicode.
Now we are getting somewhere. I use AOL 9 which I think has Internet Explorer 6 or whatever is the current version. I also have Windows XP. When I write mail on AOL the fonts are all perfect so it's not a general AOL problem. The problem seems to be the combination of AOL and a site like Wiki. I looked at my Brower settings on AOL and didn't see any "Unicode" option. Can you check with Simon? He seems to be something of a genius in this area.
Joseph
- "The problem seems to be the combination of AOL and a site like Wiki."
- Not necessarily: I'm getting the same problem with Internet Explorer 6 without AOL. Normally I use Firefox, and the fonts all show properly.
- There's a page for setting up your fonts in Internet Explorer to handle other languages here: [1]
- However, I'll warn you now: I've never been able to get Internet Explorer to properly display Unicode fonts--I'm honestly not sure if it's a problem with IE, or if I don't have it set up right. But the above web-page is the best place to start.
- Joseph, I wish I had better news, but if it is a problem with IE, you may need to switch to Firefox until IE gets better support.
- --JustinEiler 11:13, 2 Sep 2005 (CDT)
(Moved from Help:Greek_text: --JustinEiler 23:37, 3 Sep 2005 (CDT))
Hey Brother Justin, I tried Firefox and it correctly displayed all Greek fonts. Thanks. Can you make a link to Mozilla Firefox? I believe it is free to download. I checked with AOL support and not surprisingly, since they use IE, they weren't about to suggest Firefox or concede that it was a problem on AOL. They instructed me to download Windows updates for IE. I already had the most recent version. AOL's priority is email so Greek fonts work fine there. Cruising web sites is not an AOL priority which is probably why there's a problem. If enough people complain they might fix it. I know sometimes you need the latest Java update for proper display but I already have that too. As near as I can tell then it's an AOL problem.
Joseph
- Will do.
- --JustinEiler 23:37, 3 Sep 2005 (CDT)