Isaiah 53

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Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our message? and to whom hath the arm of Jehovah been revealed?

Isaiah 53:2 For he grew up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

Isaiah 53:3 He was despised, and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and as one from whom men hide their face he was despised; and we esteemed him not.

Isaiah 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and Jehovah hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Isaiah 53:7 He was oppressed, yet when he was afflicted he opened not his mouth; as a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and as a sheep that before its shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth.

Isaiah 53:8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who [among them] considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living for the transgression of my people to whom the stroke [was due]?

Isaiah 53:9 And they made his grave with the wicked, and with a rich man in his death; although he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased Jehovah to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of Jehovah shall prosper in his hand.

Isaiah 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by the knowledge of himself shall my righteous servant justify many; and he shall bear their iniquities.

Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he poured out his soul unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors: yet he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.


Few Christians realize that the Chapter designations in the Tanakh and Christian Bibles are Christian MidEvil creations and not part of the original writings. Jewish Bibles, such as the JPS, generally make this known in the preface:

"The chapter divisions, whose origin is neither ancient nor Jewish but medieval Christian, sometimes join or separate the wrong paragraphs, sentences, or even parts of sentences."

Although I have faith that it exists somewhere I have never seen a Christian Bible indicate that the Chapter divisions it contained were not original.

Christianity created Chapter divisions primarily for convenience of reference but also used them as a theological weapon to try and give portions of the Bible a Christological meaning where the original author may not have intended such a grouping. By not indicating that the Chapter designations are not original, the Christian Bible can give the misleading impression that the Chapter designations were used by the original authors to group and separate messages.

Perhaps the best example of this is Isaiah 53. Christian polemics is based mainly on proof-texting and by giving the appearance, through Chapter designation, that Isaiah 53 is a segregated prophecy, the Christians can insulate themselves from the fact that Isaiah 52 clearly flows into Isaiah 53 and Isaiah 54 clearly flows from Isaiah 53 and based on context, both Chapters clearly identify Israel as the subject.

--JoeWallack 13:54, 1 Jan 2007 (CST)

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The complaint is that "Christian polemics [says]...that Isaiah 53 is a segregated prophecy,...both Chapters clearly identify Israel as the subject."

This seems to be a strawman constructed to address an issue that does not exist. Isaiah 52 speaks of the salvation of Israel, Isaiah 53, speaks of the means of that salvation, and Isaiah 54 speaks of the comfort of salvation. Christian polemics identifies Christ as the subject of Isaiah 53 consistent with that which Jesus taught.

PRO should identify sources for his claims that Christians claim that (1) Isaiah 53 being a segregated prophecy and (2) that Isaiah 52-54 is not about Israel.

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