Mark 14:62

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What Was Jesus' Response To The High Priest?

JW:

Bart Ehrman points out in Jesus, Interrupted different responses by Jesus in different Gospels:

Mark 14:62

And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.

Verses:

Luke 22:69

But from henceforth shall the Son of man be seated at the right hand of the power of God.


Failed Prophecy

And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven. (ASV)

JW: First, let's look at this verse in context:

Mark 14: (RSV)

60: "And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, "Have you no answer to make? What is it that these men testify against you?" 61: But he was silent and made no answer. Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?" 62: And Jesus said, "I am; and you will see the Son of man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven."


JW: Literally, "Mark's" Jesus predicts that the High Priest at the time (you) would witness Jesus making a Daniel like supernatural appearence of some Type. I think we would all agree though that in the intervening 2,000 odd years no one has made a Daniel like supernatural appearence except for KISS. And unless the High Priest was actually Joan Rivers the Statute of Possible Limitations seems to have expired on this one.

In order to defend against claimed error here you have to introduce a Figurative element to Jesus' supposed claim above. Go Figure JP.

As a related side note I'll point out that Implications are often a factor in determining the likelihood of error. Let's assume for instance that "Mark" accurately reported what Jesus actually said. So technically the error is in what Jesus said and not what "Mark" wrote. Is there an error then in what "Mark" wrote? Most Skeptics would say yes because of the Implication that the author wanted to present his Jesus as making accurate predictions. Why then shouldn't possible Implications made by the "authors" of the Christian Bible as a whole, such as the Placement of "Matthew", also be considered?


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Christian Bible Assertians That Jesus Would Return Sooner Rather Than Later

JW:

One thousand nine-hundred and ninety-eight years, One thousand nine-hundred and ninety-nine years, two thousand years. Ready or not, here you come:


MATTHEW 16 (KJV) 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.


1 THESSALONIANS 4:15 (NIV) According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that WE WHO ARE STILL ALIVE, WE WHO ARE LEFT till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.


Hebrews 10 (NIV) 36 You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.

37 For in just a VERY LITTLE WHILE, "He who is coming will come and WILL NOT DELAY.


JAMES 5:8 (KJV) Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord DRAWETH NIGH.


I PETER 4:7 (KJV) But the END OF ALL THINGS IS AT HAND: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.


I JOHN 2:18 (KJV) Little children, it is the LAST TIME: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.


REVELATION (KJV) 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must SHORTLY COME TO PASS; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the TIME IS AT HAND.

3:11 Behold, I COME QUICKLY: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

22:7 Behold, I COME QUICKLY: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

22:12 And, behold, I COME QUICKLY; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, SURELY I COME QUICKLY. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.


MATTHEW 10:23 (NIV) When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, YOU WILL NOT FINISH GOING THROUGH THE CITIES OF ISRAEL BEFORE THE SON OF MAN COMES.


COLOSSIANS 1:23 (NIV) if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and THAT HAS BEEN PROCLAIMED TO EVERY CREATURE UNDER HEAVEN, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.


Romans 10:18 "Their voice has gone out into the all the earth, their words to the ends of the world."


Matthew 24:14 (NIV) "And this gospel will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, AND THEN THE END WILL COME."

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