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By not describing Jesus as "son of God" at the Start of the Gospel this helps Raise the issue of [B]When[/B] and [B]How[/B] "Mark's" Jesus became "son of god" and also helps create [B]conlict[/B] with the supposed virgin birth narratives in "Matthew" and "Luke".  
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The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. (ASV)

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The Word According To Garp, Mork, Mark. An Inventory of Significant Editing in the First Gospel:


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JW: The purpose of this Thread is to Inventory Significant Editing in the First Gospel, Mark. Apologists commonly argue that Editing of the Christian Bible is relatively minor in significance. From the best known Internet Apologist, JP Holding:

http://www.tektonics.org/lp/nttextcrit.html#agree

"Is any matter of the Christian faith affected by any variant reading? This is the most important issue for the average believer, and the good news is this: No doctrine of Christianity is in the least dependent on ANY textual variant."

This Thread will demonstrate that JP Holding is wrong. Editing of "Mark" not only affects "doctrine of Christianity" it affects some of the most important doctrine.

Before we start, let The Reader understand, that I would be glad to discuss this Issue Directly with JP Holding. Elas, he refuses to participate on all my Forums that have no censorship while he prevents me from participating on all his Forums which have censorship. Understand Dear Reader?

As we begin our Textual Analysis let's use a very Christian Textbook, Bruce Metzger's A textual commentary on the Greek New Testament. Note that this work is misleading as it gives an Implication that it is an Inventory of all Textual Variation. Actually though it's only what the authors consider Significant and there is far more variation than what is shown. Some is not shown because the meaning of the variation is considered insignificant such as the spelling of names and some because the witness for variation is considered too weak.

Also consider that Metzger's protege and heir apparent, Bart Ehrman, perhaps now the greatest Textual Critic of the Christian Bible that the world has ever known, is now a Confessed Agnostic as a result of his study of Textual Variation! [Understatement]So maybe Ehrman knows something here.[/Understatement]

Significant Variant #1:

My favorite significant variant and one that Christianity traditionally Fails to identify is that "Matthew" and "Luke" are themselves priMarily Editing of "Mark". In my now famous Mark's View Of The Disciples Thread I Demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that "Mark's" primary purpose was to Discredit "The Disciples" as Witnesses to "Mark's" Jesus. "Matthew" and "Luke" Edited "Mark" to rehabilitate "The Disciples" as The Witnesses to their Jesus. In a follow-up Thread I Am going to isolate "Matthew" and "Luke" stories of the Disciples not found in "Mark" to demonstrate how few there are (showing lack of supposed historical witness and necessity of reliance on "Mark" for the basic Narrative) and that when not copying "Mark" the portrayal is Positive (showing Intent to Spin "The Disciples" The other Way).


Significant Variant #2:

Mark 1:1

???? ??? ?????????? ????? ??????? ???? ????

Beginning of the good news of Jesus Christ son of God.


And Metzger commentary:

"1.1 ??????? [???? ????] {C} The absence of ???? ???? in ?* ? 28c al may be due to an oversight in copying, occasioned by the similarity of the endings of the nomina sacra. On the other hand, however, there was always a temptation (to which copyists often succumbed)1 to expand titles and quasi-titles of books. Since the combination of B D W al in support of ???? ???? is extremely strong, it was not thought advisable to omit the words altogether, yet because of the antiquity of the shorter reading and the possibility of scribal expansion, it was decided to enclose the words within square brackets."

Metzger, B. M., & United Bible Societies. 1994. A textual commentary on the Greek New Testament, second edition; a companion volume to the United Bible Societies' Greek New Testament (4th rev. ed.) . United Bible Societies: London; New York


JW: By not describing Jesus as "son of God" at the Start of the Gospel this helps Raise the issue of When and How "Mark's" Jesus became "son of god" and also helps create [B]conlict[/B] with the supposed virgin birth narratives in "Matthew" and "Luke".


Joseph

EDITOR, n.

   A person who combines the judicial functions of Minos, Rhadamanthus and Aeacus, but is placable with an obolus; a severely virtuous censor, but so charitable withal that he tolerates the virtues of others and the vices of himself; who flings about him the splintering lightning and sturdy thunders of admonition till he resembles a bunch of firecrackers petulantly uttering his mind at the tail of a dog; then straightway murmurs a mild, melodious lay, soft as the cooing of a donkey intoning its prayer to the evening star. Master of mysteries and lord of law, high-pinnacled upon the throne of thought, his face suffused with the dim splendors of the Transfiguration, his legs intertwisted and his tongue a-cheek, the editor spills his will along the paper and cuts it off in lengths to suit. And at intervals from behind the veil of the temple is heard the voice of the foreman demanding three inches of wit and six lines of religious meditation, or bidding him turn off the wisdom and whack up some pathos.

--JoeWallack 17:06, 21 Oct 2006 (CDT)

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