Talk:Mark 1:2
JW:
The following has been moved from Neutral to Talk:
Rebuttal
JW claims, "'Mark' claimed a quotation from Isaiah but did not provide a quotation from Isaiah." We do find a quote from Isaiah. That quote, from Isaiah 40:3, is "Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God," which is the author's introduction to John the Baptist and then to Christ.
JW claims, "As Con observes the misquote by 'Mark' starts with a quote from Malachi so Con can not use the best potential defense of a combination quote followed by editorial comment." The claim of a misquote is the personal opinion of JW without which he would have no argument. There is no misquote and JW has not shown there to be a misquote. JW's quibble is that Mark does not include the citation from Isaiah immediately, and would force Mark to be written as he desires it to be written. However, there is nothing wrong with Mark writing as he did regardless of JW's objection.
JW cliams, "Con has provided no Reasonable basis to dispute Pro above." Given that the position described by PRO is, at best, confused, there is little to dispute. PRO seems to think that Mark did not quote Isaiah correctly, and then does not deal with the quote that Mark uses from Isaiah which is, "Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God."
JW claims, "Another try would be demonstrating by detailed analysis of verses that a significant portion of "Mark's" misquote is reasonably close to a quote from Isaiah."
Isaiah 40:3 has, "Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God."
Mark 1:3 has, "Prepare the way of the LORD; Make His paths straight.”
That seems reasonable close since there is nothing that prevents Mark from shortening the Isaiah quote or paraphrasing it to support his application of Isaiah to John the Baptist and Christ.
JW claims, "I don't think that is possible either as "Mark" does not even quote Isaiah accurately and also the context wouldn't match as Isaiah's context is a path for God."
Let people judge whether Mark has quoted (or just paraphrased) Isaiah accurately. Perhaps PRO could be revised to actually compare the quote used by Mark to the relevant quote in Isaiah.
JW:
Reason for move = In General the above does not meet the Minimum reasonableness standards of ErrancyWiki. Specifically, poster will first have to deal with the following in Order to try and get anything here moved back to Neutral:
"JW claims, "'Mark' claimed a quotation from Isaiah but did not provide a quotation from Isaiah." We do find a quote from Isaiah. That quote, from Isaiah 40:3, is "Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God," which is the author's introduction to John the Baptist and then to Christ."
JW:
The above is the Pro claim and not my claim. As has already been pointed out "Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God," is a quote from Isaiah but it is not what "Mark" quoted from Isaiah.
--JoeWallack 11:01, 25 Jan 2008 (CST)
