Talk:Mark 1:9

JW:

The Baptism story creates Doubt as to the Christian Conception (pun intended) of the trinity. If you are Christian than you have heard that Jesus = God. But you have read that Jesus and God talked to each other.

In the Gospels "you have heard" is generally used for the illiterate Masses (pun intended) and refers to their hearing the Law being read. "You have read" is generally used for "The Pharisees" who being better educated presumably would have read for themselves.

Read the following out loud so you can hear it:

Mark 1: (KJV) 11 "And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

If Jesus is god/gods and the son is the father/fathers then who the Hell is this voice coming from? I humbly offer three possibilities:

1) Due to the water sounds Jesus was misquoted and actually said:

"This is my beloved Sunscreen. Who cut the cheese?"

2) In addition to his many other talents, Jesus was the all-time greatest ventriloquist.

3) The voice was actually that of George Burns who was rehearsing for his upcoming role in Oh God, Part Jew!

While we're on the subject of multiple personalities I have a related question for Christians that I've never received a satisfactory answer to:

If someone has multiple personalities and only one of the personalities is Christian, what is the long term implication for the person/s soul/s? For instance:

Does the one Christian personality save the entire person?

Does the non Christian personality damn the entire person?

Is only the Christian personality saved and if so what is the implication for the entire body?

Joseph

TRINITY, n. In the multiplex theism of certain Christian churches, three entirely distinct deities consistent with only one. Subordinate deities of the polytheistic faith, such as devils and angels, are not dowered with the power of combination, and must urge individually their clames to adoration and propitiation. The Trinity is one of the most sublime mysteries of our holy religion. In rejecting it because it is incomprehensible, Unitarians betray their inadequate sense of theological fundamentals. In religion we believe only what we do not understand, except in the instance of an intelligible doctrine that contradicts an incomprehensible one. In that case we believe the former as a part of the latter.

TRINITY, n. (1) Name of a character played by Terence Hill co-starring with Bud Spencer in the movies "They Call Me Trinity" (1970) and "Trinity is STILL My Name!" (1972). (2) The Trinity or The Triunity, in trinitarian Christian theism, based on the Nicene Creed (325 ce), the ONE god that exists in three different persona: the father, the son, and the holy spirit. Although all Christian denominations that acknowledge the Nicene Creed count as trinitarian, the name itself was, however, first used in the later Athanasian Creed (c. 500 ce), which contains this passage:

Now this is the catholic faith: We worship one God in trinity and the Trinity in unity, neither confusing the persons nor dividing the divine being.
For the Father is one person, the Son is another, and the Spirit is still another.
But the deity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, equal in glory, coeternal in majesty.
What the Father is, the Son is, and so is the Holy Spirit.
Uncreated is the Father; uncreated is the Son; uncreated is the Spirit.
The Father is infinite; the Son is infinite; the Holy Spirit is infinite.
Eternal is the Father; eternal is the Son; eternal is the Spirit:
And yet there are not three eternal beings, but one who is eternal;
as there are not three uncreated and unlimited beings, but one who is uncreated and unlimited.
Almighty is the Father; almighty is the Son; almighty is the Spirit:
And yet there are not three almighty beings, but one who is almighty.
Thus the Father is God; the Son is God; the Holy Spirit is God:
And yet there are not three gods, but one God.
Thus the Father is Lord; the Son is Lord; the Holy Spirit is Lord:
And yet there are not three lords, but one Lord.
As Christian truth compels us to acknowledge each distinct person as God and Lord, so catholic religion forbids us to say that there are three gods or lords.

So, now you know ;-)

--FreezBee 10:45, 29 May 2006 (CDT)