Deuteronomy 24:16

From Errancy Wiki
Jump to navigationJump to search

Previous Verse < Deuteronomy 24 > Next Verse

The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. (ASV)

Pro

Will children suffer for their parents sins?

Sure

Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them, for I Jehovah thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate me,

Exodus 34:7 keeping lovingkindness for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin; and that will by no means clear [the guilty], visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children`s children, upon the third and upon the fourth generation.

Numbers 14:18 Jehovah is slow to anger, and abundant in lovingkindness, forgiving iniquity and transgression; and that will by no means clear [the guilty], visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, upon the third and upon the fourth generation.

Deuteronomy 5:9 thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them; for I, Jehovah, thy God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate me;

Isaiah 14:21 Prepare ye slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers, that they rise not up, and possess the earth, and fill the face of the world with cities.

Isaiah 14:22 And I will rise up against them, saith Jehovah of hosts, and cut off from Babylon name and remnant, and son and son`s son, saith Jehovah.


NO WAY!

Deuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

Ezekiel 18:19 Yet say ye, Wherefore doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? when the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die: the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.


--Opercularis 18:56, 5 Feb 2006 (CST)

Response to Con piece: "Exodus 34:7, et al - Context: Natural consequences. "Visiting the iniquity" indicates one's sins will affect future generations. Example: Though righteous, Daniel suffered the indignities of captivity. He was affected by the sins of others" - you seem to have ignored the important point that, frequently, God himself is inflicting this punishment on future generations. This is NOT referring to "natural consequences". Please take the time to study the context in more detail rather than posting the standard apologetic response. Also, when God breaks his own moral laws, then God is immoral according to God's own standards: decreeing this to be "divine judgement" does not absolve God. The resultant "don't do as I do, do as I say" moral code would mean that, even if apologists wish to claim that God defines justice, it would be meaningless to say that God IS just. --Robert Stevens 07:13, 23 Nov 2006 (CST)

Con

This is a classic case of ignoring contexts which ARE essential to understanding why apparent conflicts exist. It is important to note the difference between (1) punitive laws of human government, (2) natural consequences for one's actions and (3) divine retribution.

1 - Punitive laws of human government

Individuals are to be held accountable for their own actions in a court a law. A contemporary example: A son steals his father's handgun and commits murder. Should the father be held accountable for murder?

2 - Natural consequences for one's actions

When one commits a crime (or "sin") that person risks suffering the consequences. Others, who are innocent, may also suffer. A contemporary example: A son commits murder. His father's standing in the community is affected by his son's actions.

3 - Divine retribution

God imposes special punishment on an individual or group of individuals.

Application

Deuteronomy 24:16 - Context: Human government.

Exodus 34:7, et al - Context: Natural consequences. "Visiting the iniquity" indicates one's sins will affect future generations. Example: Though righteous, Daniel suffered the indignities of captivity. He was affected by the sins of others.

Isaiah 14:21;22 - Context: Divine retribution.

Ezekiel 18:19,20 - Context: Human government.

Neutral

Edit this section to note miscellaneous facts.

External links